tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56230747868041478.post2824066531427732120..comments2024-03-24T00:16:17.304-07:00Comments on Storming the Ivory Tower: Homestuck, Destiny, and why Social Constructs are BullshitSam Keeperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00863236889998956170noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56230747868041478.post-4684845762573974632017-10-08T00:32:16.078-07:002017-10-08T00:32:16.078-07:00"bro was. john is. i'm not." dave do..."bro was. john is. i'm not." dave doesn't want to be a hero. he sees the hero's path is "fight against unbeatable enemy and die." that's the path sburb seems to be setting up for him and forshadowing his death repeatedly (making people think that he is going to sacrifice himself) but then at the end he's like "nope i'm not a hero i told you that at the beginning."<br /><br />both karkat and dave hold very strongly to the exact image of what they can't be: a manly man who doesn't kiss dudes or super good at quadrants who never gets confusing feelings and can have straightforward alternian relationships. they've made that almost their entire personalities because of how hard they internalized it. i think their original squabbles were partially two very strong and very different worldviews colliding. then the broship (and more) could only happen once they realized what bullshit that was. just like when they fought over the book. karkat was trying so hard to LITERALLY fit people into boxes while dave was manly style "old fashioned beatdown"ing karkat and sticking tight to monogamy. (or he just didn't want to share his girlfriend with a douche. that's reasonable.)<br /><br />i think destinies matter a little bit in the framework of homestuck because while they all end in the same place (maturation and self actualization) the different paths are super different for different people and sometimes people need a nudge in the right direction. and the game is uniquely designed to provide that nudge. some people take that course and run with it and some just say fuck you and destroy shit (looking at you rose) but it's even stated in homestuck that that was PART of the quest. from there you plot your own course.<br /><br />i'd type this up all fancy with capital letters and transitions between ideas but it's 3 AM and idgafAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-56230747868041478.post-37799053961069226742017-02-14T21:09:42.184-08:002017-02-14T21:09:42.184-08:00I feel like the quadrants were "deconstructed...I feel like the quadrants were "deconstructed" when Alternia (Alt. Bef. II) was "deconstructed" in a gout of fire and death, or as it dawned on the Trolls that their entire lives had been engineered to coerce them into a more warlike culture as per laid out in their ancestral contract.<br /><br />So really all they had to do was wit for Gamzee to render the former hive structure untenable, and BAM! Unavoidable systemic change via drug-withdrawal-and-brain-damage-induced multiple homicide!<br /><br />Then the game grooms 'em for ruling the next round of frog spunk, and so on. In a way it's a mix of acknowledging the requisite for making people learn things and letting them fail, while also perhaps noting an inevitability of change?<br /><br /><br />I also find it interesting how the classpect system is multifurcated- like a sort of balance of nature and nurture. <br /><br />Sidenote:<br />You should put ads on here, I have negative money and want to support you for holding different opinions than myself, and it's getting harder and harder to stay out of echo chambers these days, and unfortunately The Overchan is not what it once was, what with the Clearnet being terrified of onions.<br /><br />-HexidecimarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com